front end wobble
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front end wobble
I need help diagnosing a front-end wobble. My XR is super-motoed, so this is a street issue. It picks it up around 75mph. It is almost a wandering feeling that turns into a near tank slapping issue. I tried retorqueing the front axle to spec first. The tire is a Michelin Sport with about 1500 miles on it. There is no evident cupping or flat spots. The spokes, and head bearing seem tight. The only thing I have not done yet that I can think of is to pull the wheel and check the balance. I cant see where any weights have come off. Any other ideas?

qikazel- noob
- Joined: 2009-04-26
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Location: South Central Pa
XR650R Year: 2001
I'd guess balance at that speed.
What speed was it balanced for? I think someone makes a very light rimlock. You got any of that Slime in there or any of that stuff that has settled into some sort of mass?
qikazel wrote:I need help diagnosing a front-end wobble. My XR is super-motoed, so this is a street issue. It picks it up around 75mph. It is almost a wandering feeling that turns into a near tank slapping issue. I tried retorqueing the front axle to spec first. The tire is a Michelin Sport with about 1500 miles on it. There is no evident cupping or flat spots. The spokes, and head bearing seem tight. The only thing I have not done yet that I can think of is to pull the wheel and check the balance. I cant see where any weights have come off. Any other ideas?

Bump- XRR Monger
- Joined: 2009-01-27
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Location: Canyon Lake, So Cal
XR650R Year: 2002
Re: front end wobble
Is this new or a persistant problem?
Assuming it's persistant since motarding - I'd try adjusting the rear sag. With the shorter front wheel/tire height of the motard conversion, you've fundamentally altered the basic geometry of the bike, increasing the head angle and making it inherantly unstable at speed. By inreasing the sag you'll drop the head angle back to where it should be & find the stability you're looking for
If it's new- I'd pay close attention to tire PSI see if that makes a difference
Assuming it's persistant since motarding - I'd try adjusting the rear sag. With the shorter front wheel/tire height of the motard conversion, you've fundamentally altered the basic geometry of the bike, increasing the head angle and making it inherantly unstable at speed. By inreasing the sag you'll drop the head angle back to where it should be & find the stability you're looking for
If it's new- I'd pay close attention to tire PSI see if that makes a difference

Mythic- noob
- Joined: 2009-02-10
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Location: Eastern Sierra's, CA
XR650R Year: 2003
Re: front end wobble
Thanks for the responses. If any other ideas, keep them coming!!

qikazel- noob
- Joined: 2009-04-26
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Location: South Central Pa
XR650R Year: 2001
Geez, I felt smart until ...
until you piped in!
That's a great answer!
Let me know if you need a reference!
What part of the eastern Sierra are you near?
That's a great answer!
Let me know if you need a reference! What part of the eastern Sierra are you near?
Mythic wrote:Is this new or a persistant problem?
Assuming it's persistant since motarding - I'd try adjusting the rear sag. With the shorter front wheel/tire height of the motard conversion, you've fundamentally altered the basic geometry of the bike, increasing the head angle and making it inherantly unstable at speed. By inreasing the sag you'll drop the head angle back to where it should be & find the stability you're looking for
If it's new- I'd pay close attention to tire PSI see if that makes a difference

Bump- XRR Monger
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Re: front end wobble
two things you need to do,
first: go online to harbor frieght and get your self there portable wheel balancer and get a kit of motorcycle wheel weights
second: get a decent steering stabilizer, going to be in the 250 to 350 range, really doesnt matter wich one just make sure it will fit the model specifically.
good bye wobble
first: go online to harbor frieght and get your self there portable wheel balancer and get a kit of motorcycle wheel weights
second: get a decent steering stabilizer, going to be in the 250 to 350 range, really doesnt matter wich one just make sure it will fit the model specifically.
good bye wobble

gonefirefighting- noob
- Joined: 2009-04-27
Posts: 12
Location: Sisters, Or
XR650R Year: 01
Re: front end wobble
"get a decent steering stabilizer, going to be in the 250 to 350 range"
Where do I get this? The Scotts and BRP stabilizers I have seen have been at least $450-$800.
Where do I get this? The Scotts and BRP stabilizers I have seen have been at least $450-$800.

qikazel- noob
- Joined: 2009-04-26
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Location: South Central Pa
XR650R Year: 2001
Get 'em used
They are on ebay, CL and ADV for cheap all the time. I saw a near new setup from Scotts on ADV in that range recently. ADV is the cheapest as there is no price war.
The Scotts stabilizers are made in two places. One is better than the other. BRP sells the better one.
I sold a GPR setup with matching triple clamp for that amount last year. Unless you are racing at Hengeveld speeds (I'm not) I doubt there is much difference.
If I see one I'll post here as I don't have your email address.
The Scotts stabilizers are made in two places. One is better than the other. BRP sells the better one.
I sold a GPR setup with matching triple clamp for that amount last year. Unless you are racing at Hengeveld speeds (I'm not) I doubt there is much difference.
If I see one I'll post here as I don't have your email address.
qikazel wrote:"get a decent steering stabilizer, going to be in the 250 to 350 range"
Where do I get this? The Scotts and BRP stabilizers I have seen have been at least $450-$800.
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Re: front end wobble
Thanks!! 


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